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reception and Leviticus

I recorded the following comments on the voice recorder on my phone as I listened to Leviticus on my way back from my brother's wedding.

I managed to get out of the reception, finally. It was about what you'd except. Sappy. Some nice. Some over the top. I managed to avoid the dancing by leaving early. And I skipped the bouquet toss by hiding in the back. The bride I guess forgot about me. I'm married to my work. :) I was really, really glad I stayed away when the guy who caught the garter decided to put it on with his teeth. I was wearing pants, so that would have been awkward anyway. I don't think I would allow a strange many to touch me, and certainly not for peer pressure.

I did see some relatives I hadn't seen in a while, though, there were some I could have gone a little longer without.

What is the difference between an "unclean thing", and an "abominable unclean thing"? Certain types of badly done sacrifices are also abominable, so they are on-par with being gay, I guess. Just how bad is this?

No camels, they are unclean. So, not in the desert either? No pigs. No hares. I don't get these rules. And Aaron... why did they have such a hard time following instructions. Fowls and eagles, too. More abominations. Eagles are as bad as gays. Keep that in mind.

No animals on paws, they are unclean. No cats or dogs? Is this where Muslims get their prohibition against dogs or is it in the Koran, too? We're in big trouble then aren't we. Keeping cats is as bad as being gay. I have some friends who are really in trouble then.

Wouldn't it have been easier to say which creatures were clean rather than all these ones that were bad? And if you touch eat an unclean thing you have to change your clothes. That makes tons of sense.

So, if a woman has a boy, she's unclean for a week, but a girl, it's for two weeks. That's not sexist is it? She goes through a painful childbirth thanks to Eve, supposedly, but now she also has to make an offering to cleanse her of her "sin". So I suppose miscarriages aren't sins?

If you get sick you're unclean, too. Primitive medicine. Great.

Can clothes really catch leprosy and turn weird colours? Houses, too?

How many different offerings are there? Burnt, wave, sin, trespass...

It got really dull at some point. I had a hard time staying awake.

Sexual relations with relatives, even by marriage is an abomination. Bestiality, cursing at parents or god, and blasphemy are all punishable by death. Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, for a crime against a man. But against god, well, you just have to talk bad and then you should be killed.

I don't get this. Very anti-capitalist. You sell something and then you can come back in a year and reclaim it?

This is the second time in two books they've banned usury.

This book is so proof that there is no god. If you follow god's rules, then things will go well, and if not, then really bad things will happen. Do you really think that the Jews before the Holocaust were following the rules less well (qualitatively) than they are right now? How then could god let the Holocaust happen, or why did they do so well for so long if they were fucking up just as badly?

Where are the plagues of locusts?

Is there anyone eating their own children's flesh? That's what he says he's gonna do if they don't follow the rules.

Seriously.

There is still a bit more of Leviticus, but it will have to wait for the next long drive.

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shiroi_neko
Oct. 15th, 2008 03:40 pm (UTC)
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<Sexual relations with relatives, even by marriage is an abomination.>

I found this interesting because there are LOADS of incestuous acts in the babble that are given a free pass, from what I recall of it. take for instance, the case of Lot's wife turning into a pillar of salt (what exactly is a pillar of salt? Is it a statue or are we talking a column like those that hold up structures?)and the eldest daughter basically saying "Let's get dad drunk and have sex with him so we can carry on the family line!"

I admire your ability to wade through that crap. It's so lengthy and dry and boring and nonsensical and dogmatic, and preposterous and the list could go on for days. Or chapters of the bible, whichever happens to be longer. I think the bible might actually win on that one because that thing spans lifetimes (at least, that's how it feels to me...)
inafoxhole
Oct. 15th, 2008 04:13 pm (UTC)
Well, apparently there are these deposits in the Middle East that are naturally occuring (probably from the drying up of the Dead Sea, etc.) That look like pillars... Which is thw same as a column except columns usually hold something up while pillars don't... I think. Anyway, this is the Bible's explanation for said formations.

Well, you know what they say... Know your enemy. And it can be fun to pick apart all the problems that believers like to overlook or explain away. The two-dimensionality of the characters is usually one of my problems. Too many people do things without apparent motivation.
shiroi_neko
Oct. 15th, 2008 04:40 pm (UTC)
I was doing that with a particular sutra the other day. A particular Tibetan lama said that it had this benefit and that benefit and all these things that were kind of crazy, all just from reading a verse or two of it or from hearing someone else read it.

In a metaphoric way, I could see that sort of justification; if one were to devote their entire life to doing nothing but reading these passages over and over again, sure, they'd benefit and not suffer worldly things, but that's only because they'd have spent all their time in complete isolation doing nothing but reading one book.

That's why I like Gelek Rimpoche so much- he encourages doubt, skepticism and questioning. He says that if it doesn't make sense and you can't use it for anything, best to ignore it so you don't get into fanatic trouble.
inafoxhole
Oct. 15th, 2008 05:05 pm (UTC)
Well, I don't really like people who call themselves someone and then selectively reject things they don't like. I mean, there are some Christian things I do like (believe it or not), but I don't call myself a Christian because it's just too damn preposterous. And the whole idea that you tell children things you don't believe just to scare them... It's appalling.

I really think you should read Sam Harris. He likes Buddhism, particularly the meditation, but does it from an atheist perspective, and he has some really good arguments against "liberal" religion.
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