August 10th, 2007

will on mirror

The Book of Mormon (Part 7)

So, if you follow the correct teaching and leave it, god will have no mercy... But if you believe wrong things and call on god, he will answer their prays and forgive them? Why does that seem a little backwards? Shouldn't you be more forgiving of your chosen people than the people who've been bad all their lives? Evil or perfection? No middle ground?

Starting this story 600 BCE so that Joseph Smith can provide 600 years of "prophecy" before Jesus showed up is really clever. From the perspective of the sucker, it really is quite clever.

There is this section in Alma with all these ridiculous made-up words. (The names are pretty silly, too.) It leads directly into a claim that atheists really KNOW there is god, but they deny him. (That old saw!)

This whole discussion of death and redemption and probation is very confusing. Temproal death, spiritual death... Very confusing. Throw in a little Adam together with Jesus, mix.

Why is it that in all these stories people want to kill the "prophets" for "speaking plainly"? I speak plainly about their religion, is that why they want to kill me?
machines think/do men?

The Book of Mormon (Part 8)

Finally!!! The Book of Mormon has finally said something that makes sense!

The Anti-Christ is an atheist, and everything he says makes total sense. And why is it that when he demands proof of god, god provides it to him, but he won't provide it to me? Lucky, Corahor.

This leads me to wonder what was going on in America when this was written? Robert Ingersoll, perhaps? That will require checking later.

So, now tell me... What do I have to do to get god to prove himself to me?

This chapter is also terribly anti-science. I mean really, the order of the universe proves there is a god? How many times does science have to disprove this (all the mechanisms to achieve order from chaos) before this finally sinks in?

Oh, right... Dumb question.

EDIT: No, it wasn't Robert Ingersoll, the dates don't match up. Smith died in 1844 and Ingersoll wasn't born until 1833. But, it seems there was a freethinker movement in Germany since around 1815, which came to the US in 1848, so perhaps he was reacting to that.